~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
05-14-2013, 07:30 AM
Post: #51
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
It really does vary.

My favourite build is to max the Q first - use the W to zone the enemy away from creeps, and if they are dumb get a full barrage in their face woo. (This tends to be something like W > Q > Q > E > Q > R > Q > Depends on situation (usually max E)). This works best when 1v1 mid, i feel.

An alternative is to max out the W. This is used to zone your enemy the fuck away from the lane, but isn't likely to result ina s much kills as the previous build. (This is usually something like W > Q > W > Q > W > R > W > Q > Q > Q > etc).

A third build allows you to be pretty decent in lane but focuses a lot on farming. It focuses on an early point in your 2 nukes, then maxing your E. (Tends to be Q/W > W/Q [you want 1 in each by lvl 2] > E > E > E > R > E > Q > Q > Q). I don't like this build as much as the 1st build because its a lot less likely to net kills, but in passive games it can be good for farming. Note, it pushes the lane, but also its free harass on your lane opponent. This is actually pretty amazing if you're 1v1 on a side lane.

Another build, which is used when gyro is playing a support or a heavy ganking style, forgoes E altogether in favour of Q and W. You get points in E at lvl 10, 12, 13, 14, and max out Q and W by level 9. This was the build i used initially when learning how to play this hero, but i eventually felt that extra points in W were wasted if going for a more carry-focused build.

A final, niche build is stats/E. I've seen it done, it can be effective if you have essentially a free farm lane and your allies are holding up well enough on the other lanes that you don't ever need to move. I don't like this cos its real fucking boring.



All in all, make a judgement call based on how the game is going, and how your opponent behaves in the lane (does he hug creeps? Does he run from rocket? etc). I love gyro because he can be so very flexible in terms of item and skill builds. Practise makes perfect!
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05-14-2013, 10:51 AM
Post: #52
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(05-14-2013 07:30 AM)A Killer Cuppa Tea Wrote:  Practise makes perfect!

And pain builds character. :P
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05-14-2013, 06:18 PM
Post: #53
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
i just played kotl and ohhhhhhhhhh my goooooooood
hnnnnnnngh pushing lanes solo as a support so great
owning boots of travel so great
but how the fuck do you use recall whenever i tried to use it my ult randomly disappeared is it a glitch???
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05-14-2013, 08:55 PM
Post: #54
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
Whatever friend you're recalling can't take any player-based damage after the start of your recall or the recall is cancelled (but the cooldown and mana used still happen). I don't think your ult should randomly disappear though?
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05-15-2013, 01:33 AM
Post: #55
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(05-14-2013 06:18 PM)beruru Wrote:  but how the fuck do you use recall whenever i tried to use it my ult randomly disappeared is it a glitch???

Interesting. We should try to replicate this in a game some time.
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05-15-2013, 07:56 AM
Post: #56
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
So I got seven passes.

If nobody wants one, I will just give them to the dispenser bot.
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05-16-2013, 09:28 PM
Post: #57
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
today i bought flying courier and it didn't work, i had to buy it again.
wtf is up with dota 2
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05-17-2013, 01:10 AM
Post: #58
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
I have finally found the most powerful Invoker ever

Behold, and DESPAIR
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05-17-2013, 01:59 AM
Post: #59
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(05-17-2013 01:10 AM)Eldrake Wrote:  I have finally found the most powerful Invoker ever

Behold, and DESPAIR

O_O
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05-17-2013, 03:13 AM
Post: #60
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
That's about like that Visage that spammed Soul Assumption off-cooldown for 20 damage each, disregarding how it has a meter you have to fill to deal damage.
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05-18-2013, 05:24 AM
Post: #61
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
Wow what a battle EG and Rox had at the end.

Rapier Gyrocopter vs Rapier Luna.

What a match.
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05-18-2013, 03:31 PM (This post was last modified: 05-18-2013 04:59 PM by Mirdini.)
Post: #62
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
[Image: kg6GX2R.jpg]

Oops too big, let's break forums woo.

[Let's not and say we did - dini]
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05-19-2013, 01:03 AM
Post: #63
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
Chen with furion's ult and greater bash????

O_O





oh yea and hes relly big too
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05-21-2013, 04:32 PM
Post: #64
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
today i bought a satanic!!!!
and got a rapier

:D!!!!!!!!!!!

and then didnt get to use it offensively because i had to defend our ancient because all our towers and rax were gone, probably due to rapier.
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05-21-2013, 07:25 PM
Post: #65
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
what hero were you?
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05-21-2013, 08:35 PM
Post: #66
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
sniper o3o

it was random draft the other two heroes were CM (too slow!!!!!) and doom (dont wanna play dat)
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05-21-2013, 08:44 PM
Post: #67
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
Ah, cool. I seem to have problems winning with sniper. I cannot seem to bridge the gap between earlygame and lategame without the team throwing.

Sure, virtually all carrys have this problem, but i am in the process of solving them. I think i've created a pretty solid mid-game oriented Spectre build, for example - tested it out just the other day, and it worked fabulously. I got less gpm than i woulda if i had just afk farmed all game, but without my participation in the teamfights, we woulda easily lost. It helps that i had a kickass warlock on my side who got of wicked-sick initiations i could haunt into.

I'm in the process of trying to create a similar build for Faceless Void. Unfortunately, i feel as though its current iteration comes into power a few minutes too late for the average pubgame, though - but i cant seem to shake the midas from the build without gimping my late game. Next game im going to try for a quick treads-into-maelstrom build forgoing the midas altogether. But ive gone off most conventional carrys for now, im absolutely sick of the boring gameplay. Much rather play a good initiator or ganking support!
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05-22-2013, 05:54 AM
Post: #68
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
weaver is pretty rad got full build up in my first dota 2 game with him and rolled the enemy team

why have I not played this guy more
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05-23-2013, 09:46 AM
Post: #69
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
So I just caused my first ragequit ever.

I was Sven and the enemy team had Bloodseeker. It took place in the radiant bottom lane. When I was pushing the lane, Bloodseeker noticed me when I was in my side of the lane killing Radiant creeps (I was Dire) and went right for the location he presumed I was going to be at. He was, however, unaware that he was in the sight of an observer ward. I saw him, so when I got a little way through the lane, I went into the jungle and stood behind a tree to counter gank him.

I saw him, activated Warcry, threw a gauntlet at his bloodstained face, and went full Man Mode on him. In a panic, he popped a pointless BKB and attempted to run away from me. It failed.

Not even a second after he died, he immediately disconnected.
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05-27-2013, 08:41 PM
Post: #70
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
im an official PL Picker \o/

also, pflax announcer is so hilarious
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05-27-2013, 11:50 PM
Post: #71
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
I've been doing decently with KotL lately.

I always try to get BoTs so I can push all the lanes, while making sure not to take the carry's farm of course. Now, if only I could time my Illuminate perfectly all the time (I killed a BH with it in Spirit Form while we were all in a cluster during a teamfight. It was funny)
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05-28-2013, 08:45 PM
Post: #72
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(05-27-2013 08:41 PM)beruru Wrote:  im an official PL Picker \o/

also, pflax announcer is so hilarious

according to a friend of mine the only thing better than pflax announcer is playing with pflax while having pflax announcer up
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05-28-2013, 09:07 PM
Post: #73
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(05-28-2013 08:45 PM)Mirdini Wrote:  
(05-27-2013 08:41 PM)beruru Wrote:  im an official PL Picker \o/

also, pflax announcer is so hilarious

according to a friend of mine the only thing better than pflax announcer is playing with pflax while having pflax announcer up

O_O

pflax overdose...
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05-29-2013, 12:25 AM
Post: #74
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
i like to standard announcer too much to ever change it. In fact i'd only ever swap her for one thing: GLaDOS.
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05-30-2013, 08:14 AM (This post was last modified: 05-30-2013 08:16 AM by Mirdini.)
Post: #75
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
Well my first counterpoint and one I have not yet seen refuted is Tea, what about Cave Johnson

My second counterpoint and one you should probably consider is only for kill streaks, but just excellent: IS IT THE SHOES

Replace those files into your dota files, type -override_vpk into your dota launch options.

For maximum jammin' replace this into the respective lines in your dota_english text file under 'scripts'.

Example (though the pack I linked also provides vital background music in the voice clips to go with glorious jam announcer).
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05-30-2013, 08:40 AM
Post: #76
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(05-30-2013 08:14 AM)Mirdini Wrote:  My second counterpoint and one you should probably consider is only for kill streaks, but just excellent: IS IT THE SHOES

Replace those files into your dota files, type -override_vpk into your dota launch options.

For maximum jammin' replace this into the respective lines in your dota_english text file under 'scripts'.

Example (though the pack I linked also provides vital background music in the voice clips to go with glorious jam announcer).

[Image: LynOOy5.gif]
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05-30-2013, 09:51 AM
Post: #77
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(05-30-2013 08:14 AM)Mirdini Wrote:  Well my first counterpoint and one I have not yet seen refuted is Tea, what about Cave Johnson

My second counterpoint and one you should probably consider is only for kill streaks, but just excellent: IS IT THE SHOES

Replace those files into your dota files, type -override_vpk into your dota launch options.

For maximum jammin' replace this into the respective lines in your dota_english text file under 'scripts'.

Example (though the pack I linked also provides vital background music in the voice clips to go with glorious jam announcer).

Cave Johnson aint got nothing on GLaDOS.

As for the rest? Too much effort.
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05-31-2013, 01:16 AM
Post: #78
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.78

That is all.
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06-06-2013, 01:52 PM
Post: #79
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
I can't wait to be a useless piece of shit and play necrolyte all day
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06-07-2013, 05:14 AM
Post: #80
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Vengeance has never been healthier.
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06-10-2013, 08:39 PM
Post: #81
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
alchemist is fun
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06-11-2013, 05:16 AM
Post: #82
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
[Image: GQhxpMg.png]

Am I allowed to move up in matchmaking now Valve? :(
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06-15-2013, 11:19 AM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2013 11:20 AM by Eldrake.)
Post: #83
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
Wow, dang.

Rox.Kis' captain betted against his own team. Rox.Kis intentionally threw the game.

Rox.Kis got banned. Solo (the captain) banned for life.

The only member who didn't get banned was Vanskor, who wasn't playing that game.
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06-15-2013, 01:13 PM
Post: #84
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(06-15-2013 11:19 AM)Eldrake Wrote:  Wow, dang.

Rox.Kis' captain betted against his own team. Rox.Kis intentionally threw the game.

Rox.Kis got banned. Solo (the captain) banned for life.

The only member who didn't get banned was Vanskor, who wasn't playing that game.

Good riddance. Time for them to find something else to do in life but dota.
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06-16-2013, 12:51 PM (This post was last modified: 06-16-2013 12:51 PM by A Killer Cuppa Tea.)
Post: #85
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
Dreamhack is going pretty well so far. Games I'd recommend watching from Day1:

1) Mouz vs El'Pride - nice long back and forth game.
2) VP v Dignitas - just watch it haha

The Super League was also going on today. DK played Orange in a really good Bo3 series that highlights why Burning is The World's Best Carry.
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07-06-2013, 08:58 PM
Post: #86
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
bts finally made subtitles for the d2sl grand finals, the teams really do say adorable things

(so many dota puns)

(also dk in black suits ouo)

"Have some wine," the March Hare said in an encouraging tone.
Alice looked all round the table, but there was nothing on it but tea.
"I don't see any wine," she remarked.

(06-25-2013 09:31 AM)Chirality Wrote:  And then everyone cut the simplest explanations in tiny pieces then set them on fire then threw them in a lake and poisoned the lake.
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07-10-2013, 07:49 PM
Post: #87
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
this morning na'vi won a tournament somehow

this afternoon, dota 2 was released to the public and all those useless steam keys disappeared

a big day for doto

"Have some wine," the March Hare said in an encouraging tone.
Alice looked all round the table, but there was nothing on it but tea.
"I don't see any wine," she remarked.

(06-25-2013 09:31 AM)Chirality Wrote:  And then everyone cut the simplest explanations in tiny pieces then set them on fire then threw them in a lake and poisoned the lake.
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07-12-2013, 02:15 PM
Post: #88
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AB

AD

DOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN
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07-12-2013, 05:50 PM
Post: #89
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(07-12-2013 02:15 PM)A Killer Cuppa Tea Wrote:  AB

AD

DOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN

jakiro
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07-12-2013, 07:20 PM
Post: #90
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(07-12-2013 05:50 PM)Chirality Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 02:15 PM)A Killer Cuppa Tea Wrote:  AB

AD

DOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN

jakiro

bristleback!!!!!

"Have some wine," the March Hare said in an encouraging tone.
Alice looked all round the table, but there was nothing on it but tea.
"I don't see any wine," she remarked.

(06-25-2013 09:31 AM)Chirality Wrote:  And then everyone cut the simplest explanations in tiny pieces then set them on fire then threw them in a lake and poisoned the lake.
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07-14-2013, 09:05 PM
Post: #91
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(07-12-2013 07:20 PM)beruru Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 05:50 PM)Chirality Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 02:15 PM)A Killer Cuppa Tea Wrote:  AB

AD

DOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN

jakiro

bristleback!!!!!

Venomancer!
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07-15-2013, 01:06 AM
Post: #92
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(07-14-2013 09:05 PM)ExKirby Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 07:20 PM)beruru Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 05:50 PM)Chirality Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 02:15 PM)A Killer Cuppa Tea Wrote:  AB

AD

DOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN

jakiro

bristleback!!!!!

Venomancer!

all walk into a bar...
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07-15-2013, 05:10 AM
Post: #93
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quote pyramids!

In other news, can't wait for Legion Commander.
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07-15-2013, 09:02 AM
Post: #94
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
i wish bristle had items
because someone is inevitably going to make a blue set for bristle
and then i will buy it

"Have some wine," the March Hare said in an encouraging tone.
Alice looked all round the table, but there was nothing on it but tea.
"I don't see any wine," she remarked.

(06-25-2013 09:31 AM)Chirality Wrote:  And then everyone cut the simplest explanations in tiny pieces then set them on fire then threw them in a lake and poisoned the lake.
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07-21-2013, 03:52 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2013 03:52 AM by A Killer Cuppa Tea.)
Post: #95
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[Image: CJaHTZf.jpg]

:D
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07-21-2013, 01:47 PM
Post: #96
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
Fuck people who only play invoker and go exort euls blink build.
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08-02-2013, 08:09 AM
Post: #97
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
So I just gave Pugna a try in bot practice, and...

One day, one day I am going to play Pugna in a real game and be the most annoying thorn in the enemy's side.
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08-03-2013, 01:22 AM
Post: #98
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
(08-02-2013 08:09 AM)Eldrake Wrote:  So I just gave Pugna a try in bot practice, and...

One day, one day I am going to play Pugna in a real game and be the most annoying thorn in the enemy's side.

Just keep in mind he's a situational pick since his biggest things are Nether Ward and his pushing power. You can't just pick him and expect to do well against just any lineup. You are the real anti-mage.
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08-03-2013, 06:48 AM
Post: #99
RE: ~Dota 2~ : Deny Your Friends And Your Enemies
The International 3 has officially begun!

wooo
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08-06-2013, 01:53 AM
Post: #100
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Alliance is on a fire. They have won every game so far.
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